Table of contents

• Recording
• When
• Where
• What
• Topics
  • First hour, quick news
  • Second hour, longer topics
• Follow-Up
• Chat log

Volunteering Facilitator: Marc Laporte

Recording

Watch/listen to the recording of the meeting here.

When

Our monthly meetings are the third Thursday of each month at 14h UTC, so this one is Thursday, January 18th, 2023. 14h UTC (click to check time zone in your location)

Where

• https://live.tiki.org

What

See Roundtable Meetings for a detailed description.

Topics

First hour, quick news

1. Smarty 5 in Tiki and https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests?scope=all&state=opened&target_branch=tiki-smarty-5 (Rodriguez)
2. Cypht and Bootstrap 5 (Alvin)
   • https://github.com/cypht-org/cypht/pull/828
3. Updates of calendar revamp in Tiki26x (John)
4. Plans for FOSDEM 2024 and associated TikiFest (Jean-Marc)
5. Drag and drop library selection for Cypht and Tiki (Merci Jacob): Decision Analysis for Drag and Drop Library for usage in Tiki and Cypht
6. Build system (Benoit)
7. WYSIWYG and Markdown (boss.ibrahim, emmanuel.masikilizano and josaphat.imani)
8. Tiki IoT (Bruno or Geoff): https://iot.dev4.evoludata.com/
9. ...

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Second hour, longer topics

1. Tiki27 release schedule and process (Roberto and Rodriguez)
2. We also discussed upcoming plans for Snapshots from trunk
3. Performance scores (unused JavaScript)

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Follow-Up

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Chat log

ibrahim mussa (ibmussa) 00:00:11
Hello

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:01:25
@rodriguez: Smarty 5 update please

Guest: Bienvenu Moringa 00:01:33
Hello

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:03:27
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/4354

Guest: Rodriguez Nyiringabo 00:04:00
Sorry,, I lost internet connection again.

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:04:03
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/3529

Guest: Benoit Grégoire 00:04:17
https://github.com/smarty-php/smarty/issues/296

Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley) 00:06:35
Thanks Benoit

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:08:23
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/3529 modifies 584 files

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:14:31
https://github.com/cypht-org/cypht/pull/828

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:15:14
56 files changed!

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima) 00:19:35
Good job Alvin!!!👌

Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem) 00:20:28
Can you sahre the link?

Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem) 00:21:09
s/sahre/share/

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima) 00:21:09
@Benoit looks tired th

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:22:58
https://avan.tech/item97143-Tiki-calendars-Testing-all-the-features-UX-of-appointment-slots-CalDAV-invitations-by-email-etc-includes-testing-for-Concession-Calendar

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 00:25:04
The calendar year view is broken in master (has been for a while). Something to check in the revamp, I imagine.

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:26:02
https://doc.tiki.org/Appointment-slots

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:29:56
https://tiki.org/TikiFestFosdem2024

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:33:36
https://dev.tiki.org/Decision-Analysis-for-Drag-and-Drop-Library-for-usage-in-Tiki-and-Cypht

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:34:25
Conclusion: 1) Interact.js: and 2) Sortable.js:

Guest: Benoit Grégoire 00:36:05
@gary: Humm, it was working when i ported to fullcalendar 6 and the new build system. It's indeed broken now.

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:37:46
https://dev.tiki.org/Debugger-Console

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima) 00:39:37
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/blob/9af389376ab569be5a02f32a727eee41354bfbd9/lib/jquery_tiki/function.debugger.js

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 00:39:44
I noticed it broken several months ago also (displayed in one horizontal row).

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 00:44:23
Bug report (broken calendar year view - Aug. 1, 2022): https://dev.tiki.org/item8163-Year-view-in-calendar-displays-in-one-condensed-row

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 00:47:31
Internal task: https://avan.tech/item98556-Tiki-Review-UX-of-text-editor-when-in-Markdown-mode-TOAST-UI-editor-All-modes

Bruno Kambere (kambereBr) 00:52:00
https://avan.tech/item98647

Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir) 00:56:40
https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki27#Tentative_release_schedule_and_Tiki_main_sites_updates

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 01:00:50
Looking forward to snapshots 😄.

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 01:04:33
https://dev.tiki.org/Snapshots-from-trunk

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 01:06:52
I was thinking maybe snapshots would also be useful for people who can't run npm on shared hosting accounts — they could stay more current with code and not have to wait for version releases.

Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley) 01:28:16
https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-tiki-org-HomePage/9q3jsjo86t?form_factor=mobile

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima )01:29:21
OMG, 2 for performance.... 😒

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 01:33:16
Performance is 26 on tiki.org/Community (https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-tiki-org-Community/slo4sweisl?form_factor=mobile), which is quite a bit better.

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima) 01:33:42
Also long unused scripts

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 01:33:42
Maybe I should replace the animation on the HomePage with a plain image.

Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy) 01:35:18
Suggestions are welcome 😉.

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima) 01:36:00
How about minimizing all css and js that we send to the browser?

Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley) 01:36:20
https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-creativeloafing-com/b33hen9gwf?form_factor=mobile

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima) 01:38:50
Most of times, the mobile score is lower, for tiki.org/Community the desktop is around 43 https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-tiki-org-Community/slo4sweisl?form_factor=desktop

Elvis ANSIMA (elvis.ansima) 01:41:07
At least when minimized we can save the size of bundle we send to the user, which i think can reduce TTFB

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 01:41:38
https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-dev-tiki-org-Development/qlzm9zyza5?form_factor=mobile

Guest: Benoit Grégoire 01:52:03
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/4041#note_1727936009

Marc Laporte (marclaporte) 02:01:29
We have 40 backports planned (33 to 26.x, 7, to 26.x and 24.x):
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests?label_name%5B%5D=needsCherryPicksTo%3A%3A26.x&scope=all&state=merged
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests?label_name%5B%5D=needsCherryPicksTo%3A%3A24.xLTS&scope=all&state=merged

Bruno Kambere (kambereBr) 02:10:13
Bye bye!